Starting Over?

Ok. I have had VB express for about 3 weeks now. I have 0 experience with programing. Sorry, all you techy people. But I have learned some cool things. But as I tried to jump into the fire ( and its hot ) i found nothing but frustration. Hence, I have improved on my "google" searching abilites and might add found "never before patience." Says my wife. Any way. Too bad for all of the very nice people that have put up with my "trey" annoying posts asking horribly bad questions. Why You may ask Well because I am not giving it up thats why. I have this need to learn. Its a very bad habit know.

So I am starting over and for the sake of writing some good code and even better codeing practice I come once more to you for assistance. Please great code gods help this child.

My needs are many.So concider that I have since forwarned you.
I am trying to build a Calculator of sorts. I just need to be pointed in the right direction.
Here is what I need this to do.

1, A mortgage calculator. ( sounds simple ) I did get this far and it worked. Just not pretty looking code.
2, An investment calculator that uses values from the mortgage calculator. ( again just horrible coding.)
My first question is about building classes. Should I be doing this What I have done just to get it functioning is create 4 buttons with similar code, but obviously produce different results. Or is that over complicating things

So, basically I have become very proficient at visually creating a UI ( if that is correct ) lots of text boxes and labels and even buttons. I have managed to get accurate results some of the time. But I just need to start over and regroup. build this thing correctly as it is becoming increasingly frustrating doing a workaround only to create another problem.

If you read this far god bless you and have mercy on your beautiful soul.

Cheers,

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Starting Over?

MikeB41
Cool!!!
Jallman

'This shows the user to contact the person that started this aweful post.
dim chris as nutz
dim unreliabledog as silly

silly = MSN messenger
email = nutz
nutz = juner33@hotmail.com
if email chris then U_nutz
elseif MSN = u_silly
endif

How, if possible, can I send someone that might be willing my horrible windows app to get help with it so that they can see where I am going wrong. Dont fix it just get me started

Cheers

Please have some humour....
Rajesh Basa
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vb/learning/default.aspx

Watch these at least 10 times and follow along with Bob..... You are are wasting your time trying to write any APP at your Level- Ground Zero...... If you become bored watching these 10 times this is not for you....... I am not trying to be a smart a*s just trying to be Real.... This stuff is very Challenging and not for Everybody.... Cheers
c&#35;oder
Hi Chrisjune.... I don't Take anything Seriously Buddy not even naivete.... Cheers
DmitriyKot
Click the link above and goto the videos bob tabor created the vids lol
GaryD9
Hey Bill,

I sure hope you are not taking any of this as serious. I mean no harm intended. Actually just the opposite. I sure hope I haven't offended you. That sure was not my intention. Please take my remarks witha grain of salt.

I never thought I would have any interest in programming at all ever. I thought you guys were geeks in highschool. Stupid me!!!!!!!! I remember quiting my computer science class and thought what a joke. Well fools on me right

I find that as I read more and goof around more and more that it is quit interesting. So this is where most of this comes from. I am gainfully employed (thankfully not a a programmer) or I would be living in a box out side your house probably. So laugh with me not at me K
clefsoft

You can send your entire application folder to someone if they are willing to look over it.

In my opinion, it's not rocket science, but it *is* a disicpline that people spend four years at Uni learning. Having said that, I am self taught. It's my opinion that the current round of tools give people confidence to create stuff that *looks* good, while allowing them to bypass the basics of fundamental design, and even the basics of learning the language.

Having said that, I code for a living. If you're coding for fun, then no-one has the right to tell you to stop, or to change, so long as you're having a good time, you're free to write whatever code you like, at your level. But I would stand by my advice that you should really learn the basic concepts prior to writing any windows apps.

Of course, you should feel free to ask any questions you like here as you go, that's what the forums are for. I'm just suggesting a step back may help you in the long run.
svn
Who's Bob

Sorry had to ask...

k. Thanks for not being a smart A**....lol I get what your saying but cmon it cant be rocket science either right I mean I have managed to get a fairly good working app. Does that mean anything No! I am sure of that. So I have learned somethings beyond what those videos show. Not much more but im just hard on myself I guess.

So this means no help then Since your not Bob
And yes I am laughing loudly.

Cheers
Richard L. Irwin
Hi There Chrisjune..... It is very hard for me to respond to you without sounding like an Appeal to Authority A*sHole.... But Believe it or not.... 25 years ago I Taught Junior College Courses in Basic, Fortran, Pascal,CS, etc.. I was away from IT for many years and came back in Nov/2005........ I have watched these Movies at least 5 Times and still do not understand OOP... I always thought I was a Dumb A*s and now you Confirmed It..... Cheers
DanMoran
You could send it to me if you liked, but I'm not a VB guy, I could offer general advice tho. christian dot graus at gmail dot com.
Catadmin

Good point - if you don't enjoy learning, this is the wrong place to be. There's always something new to learn.
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So, basically I have become very proficient at visually creating a UI ( if that is correct ) lots of text boxes and labels and even buttons.

sadly, the new IDE makes this too easy without making clear the path you should follow to really learn.

Your first step IMO is to buy a VB.NET book and work through it, creating console only apps until you have a good understanding of the language. Then you should move into writing windows apps.
Dungeonhawk
Building a basic calculator is actually a good example to start with - there's a lot of techniques that will be required for more advanced programs. And remember that learning is the journey, not the destination. If you don't enjoy figuring stuff out, then you'll have frustrating time of it.
Cesar Dela Paz
Well, Mostly I will code for personal use. However what I have found that I have a need for this particular app im "TRYING" blahhh....to do. I agree with you however. I mean really all this is, is a calculator which I done before. The hard part is getting the formating down. Getting the boxes(labels or textboxes) to show what I want. Anyways, starting to sound like im crying. Thanks for the advise. Oh and if ya ever see Bob tell him I say "Hi"

Sure would be nice to send my hunk of junk to someone so they can tell me its horrible.....
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