How do I use the MSDN documents.

Hello, I just installed VC++ Express along with the MSDN option. However I don't know how to access it. Where is it saved on my computer, and how do i access it Also I was about to install the platform SDK but was unsure which one do download. Apparently the one that is linked to on the VC++ Express site has a newer version 5.2.3790.2075.51.PlatformSDK_Svr2003R2_rtm.img, the older one is 5.2.3790.1830.15.PlatformSDK_Svr2003SP1_rtm.img, which one should I be using And does that come with MSDN help documents

Thanks very much for any help :-) :-) :-)



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How do I use the MSDN documents.

  • John Hart_MS

    1. The MSDN materials are accessible from Help within VC++ 2005 Express Edition. They are integrated into the Help. You may want to set options about when VC++ will check on MSDN online also. Select Tools | Options | Environment | Help and review the General and Online settings. I have had good experience with

    • External Help Viewer
    • Try local first, then online

    I also have an always-on broadband connection.

    2. I recommend the Platform SDK for Windows Server 2003 R2. It works fine and provides the latest approach to the PSDK. There is no full MSDN collection with it. You have full access to MSDN online however.

    3. Possible Option. I don't know if the MSDN Subscriptions Library DVD will integrate with Visual C++ 2005 Express Edition. I have one but haven't tried it. That would be a worthwhile experiment. I don't know if these discs are available separately from MSDN Subscriptions, though. That would be worth checking out. There is a tremendous amount of material in those libraries.

    - Dennis



  • cristib

    Great answer, thanks!
  • phpcs

    Drunkboat wrote:
    orcmid wrote:

    3. Possible Option. I don't know if the MSDN Subscriptions Library DVD will integrate with Visual C++ 2005 Express Edition. I have one but haven't tried it. That would be a worthwhile experiment. I don't know if these discs are available separately from MSDN Subscriptions, though. That would be worth checking out. There is a tremendous amount of material in those libraries.

    - Dennis

    Well, I finally did my homework so I could be more-responsive here. Here's what I learned:

    1. The May 2006 MSDN Subscription Library Quarterly DVD does not integrate with VC++ 2005 Express Edition. (It requires 2GB for a full install, so the DVD download might be tractable for broadband.)

    2. The MSDN Library installs alongside VC++ 2005 EE with no problem, but each uses the Microsoft Visual Studio Document Explorer in ways where the MSDN Library material of the other is not recognized and is not visible in any way. (Basically, the the two are in different Help namespaces and there is apparently no crossover between the two.)

    3. There is useful information about the Platform SDK in the MSDN Library, and now that I see it, it will be great to find the same material in MSDN Online.

    - Dennis

  • chaminda perera

    orcmid wrote:

    (snip)

    I also have an always-on broadband connection.

    (snip)

    3. Possible Option. I don't know if the MSDN Subscriptions Library DVD will integrate with Visual C++ 2005 Express Edition. I have one but haven't tried it. That would be a worthwhile experiment. I don't know if these discs are available separately from MSDN Subscriptions, though. That would be worth checking out. There is a tremendous amount of material in those libraries.

    - Dennis



    All very well for those with an always-on broadband connection! ;) Where should one go to find out about getting legal copies of the MSDN Subscriptions Library DVDs without subscribing If it's possible - Microsoft hasn't gone out of its way to exploit this minor market ...


  • conzero

    Drunkboat wrote:
    Where should one go to find out about getting legal copies of the MSDN Subscriptions Library DVDs without subscribing If it's possible - Microsoft hasn't gone out of its way to exploit this minor market ...

    Considering the success of the Express Editions, with people crying out for documentation and better help files (especially for the historical content of VC++, its libraries and the PSDK), I think you have a good point. It seems to me that this would be an important tool for supporting enthusiasts and nano-developers/ISVs (like myself). I also recall that there was a time when it was permissable to share an MSDN Subscriptions Library disc among developers within a single organization (it can even be network installed).

    I think this is the kind of thing that could be brought up by request to msdn@microsoft.com. There is an enthusiast team within Microsoft that might be able to give some priority to broadening availability of the library. A reasonable option would be to make the DVD available for download except I suspect it is gigantic (my computer won't give me a size). The other case would be to make it available for mail order (just like the PSDK and large betas such as those for Vista and Office 2007) for a nominal shipping cost.

    - Dennis

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