Itanium compiler removed in VS 2005 PRO (it is only on team version)

I'm disappointed: the C++ itanium computer was removed on VS 2005
Professional, and is only on the expensive "team" edition.

The Platfork SDK of Windows 2003 SP1 contain a free x64 and itanium
compiler, but not integrated on VS2005

see
http://msdn.microsoft.com/howtobuy/vs2005/
http://msdn.microsoft.com/howtobuy/vs2005/subscriptions/
http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/vs2005/productinfo/productline/default.aspx
http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/teamsystem/default.aspx

these page say  " 64 Bit support" in only on pro version, but don't say that
itanium is only on team.

On my page http://forum.winimage.com/index.php c=8 , I tried help developper
to port on 64 bits, including itanium...



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Itanium compiler removed in VS 2005 PRO (it is only on team version)

  • Dr. Thunder

    Yes, I see it listed in the "Upcoming Shipment Information" section of http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscriptions/. However, in the Visual C++ section of the Subscriber Downloads area, I don't see the option you mention, only:

    - Visual C++ (Alpha Systems)
    - Visual C++ 1.52
    - Visual C++ 2.0
    - Visual C++ 4.2
    - Visual C++ Browser Toolkit

    I also checked the Visual Studio 2005 section but don't see it there either.


  • FabioTv13

    Hi all,

    I have an open SRQ on this issue (raised a complaint) and was made aware to this posting in this forum. I've also spoken to MS personnel at the recent launch event.

    The tools are only visible to those with MSDN Premium (aka Universal) subscription or higher. I also have a Professional subscription and cannot see them.

    Here's a link I was sent that shows the differences between the products:

    http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hs24szh9

    I do believe we have a valid complaint here and MS should - if only as a gesture of goodwill - provide these tools to the customers affected by this issue.

    After all, we're all trying to promote MS's platform and provide solutions for customers which can only be beneficial to MS.

    Hope this helps,

    Adrian

  • FelixWatts

    I totally agree with gvollant.
    I'm a shareware author, and being able to build 64bits version of my products (for x64 AND for IA64) was a really interesting thing.
    What's the point of Itanium if noone can build product for this platform

  • Tenly

    Hi there -

    The Itanium hosted C++ compiler, tools and libraries are actually available through the MSDN Premium subscription.  You are correct that the Platform SDK includeds C++ compilers, but not those that are delivered through formal Visual C++ and VIsual Studio releases, as the tools are constantly changing to keep up with the platform.

    We thank you for your feedback regarding the availability of the tools, and I will make sure we consider it in the future.

    Regards,
    April Reagan
    Visual C++ Program Management

  • Kennet Harris

    I cannot agree with this decision.

    I'm shareware maker, and my software (with a price between $30 and $60) are installed on thousand of computer.

    On all these users, probably near 1% are Itanium users.

    With a cross compiler on a VS 2005 less expensive than the "team" VS2005, it is possible to compile both x64 and ia64 version of application, test x64 on a (cheap and common) x64 computer, and then on itanium computer remotely (by example, with "Intel testing case" program, see http://forum.winimage.com/viewtopic.php t=172 ).

    Using the (free) Itanium compiler on Platform SDK Windows 2003 SP1, I've compiled Itanium version of my shareware WinImage and SmartVersion , very useful command line compression Zip and UnZip from InfoZip, and UnRar.

    Of course, noone will buy expensive itanium to run these inexpensive tools. But they can be useful (and better in natvice mode than x86 emulation) on running Itanium system.

    Unitl now, I said to all C++ windows developper : port to 64 bits, test a lot on x64, and you can produce Itanium version and test on Intel "testing case" with acceptable cost.
    Your decision just killing this, and just kill more Itanium, because less developper will produce Itanium build.

    About "enterprise" line of product, just a point : MSDN universal contain Windows 2003 server enterprise (including Itanium version) but not Visual Studio 2005 "team" suite.


  • eshl

    Hi,

    I downloaded the ISO image burnt on a CD. I am trying to install this on a machine which already has When extracting it shows a dialog with title "Microsoft Visual C++ Express Edition" which is confusing as it is supposed to be IA64 tools. However after a bit of time it throws an error "Error creating process <c:\docume~1\admini~1\locals~1\temp\IXP000.TMP\install.exe>. Reason: c:\winnt\system32\advpack.dll" .

    What could be wrong

    I tried this on 32bit win XP prof as well as on 64 bit Win XP prof, on all the machines i get the same error. On 64bit i also get another error "the image file c:\docume~1\admini~1\locals~1\temp\IXP000.TMP\install.exe is valid, but is for a machine type other than current machine" with title"vctoolssetup.exe - Machine Type Mismatch" This probably is because i am trying to install this on AMD64bit machine.

    Should this be allowed to install as i am only installing the cross compiler VS2005 prof got installed with no error on this box.

    Thanx in Advance.

    -Mahesh



  • Eric Heinze

    You can find the new download at http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscriptions/. Log into the subscription and you should find it there.

  • Microsoft Visual C++ Tools for Itanium-based Systems (English)


  • Thanks,
      Ayman Shoukry
      VC++ Team

  • Jamie MacLennan

    I will dig around and keep you updated.

    Thanks,
      Ayman Shoukry
      VC++ Team

  • humble.apprentice

    Go to the link I provided and you will see Microsoft Visual C++ Tools for Itanium-based Systems (English).

    I don't have a subscription but it should be under:
    "Visual C++ Tools for Itanium-based Systems (English)"  (October 27th, 2005)
     
    under Developer Tools - Visual C++ - Visual C++ Tools for Itanium-based Systems

    Thanks,
      Ayman Shoukry
      VC++ Team



  • rajkumar sharma

     April Reagan wrote:
    The Itanium hosted C++ compiler, tools and libraries are actually available through the MSDN Premium subscription.

    I have an MSDN Professional subscription. How can I get the Itanium compiler

    Literally the #1 reason I purchased an MSDN subscription in the first place was to get VS 2005 with its integrated support for all three platforms - x86, x64, and Itanium. The news that VS2005 Pro lacks the Itanium compiler comes as quite as shock to me for a couple of reasons: 1) there's no mention whatsoever on the Product Line page that it's missing on the Professional edition, and 2) the Beta 2 version I've been using -- and didn't pay a cent for (!) -- includes support for the Itanium.

  • jpfette

    Does this mean that if I install the patch it will add to my vs8 as a new platform in an integrated manner like x64 or would i have to go and create a custom configuration with specific include/lib/exe/compiler paths for it

  • tdat

    (Bump.)

    Could I please get a response to my previous question Where can I find the "Visual C++ Tools for Itanium-based Systems" If it's not currently available for download, will it be included in the next MSDN shipment (Dec. 2005)

  • Valery Tolkov

    This was a difficult decision but our aim was to align our products with the Windows products. Within Microsoft (and elsewhere) Itanium is really seen as an "Enterprise" level product: for example the Standard release of Windows Sever 2003 does not support Itanium. We also did not see any real customer demand for a professional level release of our Itanium compiler: at the professional level the vast majority of developers who are targetting 64-bit are targetting the x64 platform instead of Itanium.

  • tank959

     Ayman Shoukry wrote:
    You can find the new download at http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscriptions/. Log into the subscription and you should find it there.

  • Microsoft Visual C++ Tools for Itanium-based Systems (English)
  • Could you please be more specific as to its location I'm not seeing it. Searching for "Itanium" comes back with matches for Windows Server 2003 and SQL Server 2005, but not Visual C++.


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