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I just saw another thread with "Can i make a app that doesnt use the .NET. The framework is too big 23 MB"..

SO...

Can Microsoft create a .Net Framework just for c# not for asp or j# or visual basic providing only the neccesary dlls

Please!!!!

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dkonyayev
ahh, just screw em! Hahaha, just kidding, that's a good point. They should have just made it part of WindowsXP install originally, but oh well, I guess we just have to deal with it.
Alexzander N. Nepomnjashiy
ya it would be... for people like us That have internet.. but what if the user doesnt have Internet connection
SivaKrishna Varma
ya guess your right.. but how about the ASP we dont need that.. they can exculde it..

And yup i was wondering too that.. and most of all.. Why didnt they included in the SP1 or SP2
sandeeppatwardhan
Eh, the framework is for .NET; there are in my opinion no specific dll's for j#, vb.net, etc...
The CLR uses IL, and C#, VB.NET, J#, and all other .NET languages are compiled to Intermediate Language.
Raghavendra Prabhu MSFT

hi,

the problem is not because .net support many languages , all those languages will be converted to .net code, what you write in the IDE is not the code that will be used , your code will be converted to this http://csharpcomputing.com/Tutorials/Lesson2.htm

the .net framework idea is like java runtime environment you can't run program written in java without this environment, this environment save you from lots of coding without this you will write too much , and you have to know how to deal with the devices directly which is awful

there are other languages when you use it , it will compile your code to native code you don't need any runtime environment like C++

what i don't understand is this , java has runtime environment because you can write a program to run on many platforms, but .net just run on windows so what is the need for extra program , they can make framwork as windows update. which i guess they will embed framworks to the next windows version

the only benefit that i see till now from the IL is the garbage collector, i hope next step is to compile the programs to native code during installation to speed up the programs, and i will be happy more if microsoft reduce the memory usage under .net

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Stephen W
cablehead wrote:
Just make it a "security" update at Windows Update....

I think that would probably be the best option.
Randy Hoogerhyde
Just make it a "security" update at Windows Update....
femMaster
Yeah, I agree, I sure as hell wish they would have. I love Microsoft, but this does seem to be a small oversight in my opinion.
ToyImp
That would be great!!!
Sumardi
yes that too... but PLEASE DO IT!!!!!!

does soemone hears us
Suhas_hk

yup but i think .Net wasnt created in 2001.. but like i sad i really really dont understand why didnt they included in the SP1 and SP2
dotnetgirl

zapacila89 wrote:
ya guess your right.. but how about the ASP we dont need that.. they can exculde it..

in ASP.net the server must have FrameWork running on it, other wise your .ASPX web pages will not work

best regards

RDD

Frederik Gheysels wrote:
Eh, the framework is for .NET; there are in my opinion no specific dll's for j#, vb.net, etc...
The CLR uses IL, and C#, VB.NET, J#, and all other .NET languages are compiled to Intermediate Language.

Well, that's right. To develop C#, VB or J# apps, you need to have the .NET Framework SDK. This SDK is different from the .NET Framework. It provides various tools (suc as command line compilers, IL disassembler etc.) to enable one to develop software that target the .NET Framework.

So, as you can see, probably it makes sense to have different SDKs (C# SDK, VB SDK, J# SDK) but there have to be a single, uniform .NET Framework which we use to build our applications on top of.

Raventhorp
This makes me laught! You are kidding, right

All the .NET Languages just create MSIL code, so the .NET Framework is allready only for 1 language.

But please tell me, what is wrong with a 30MB sized framework
For example: Java needs the JVM and VB6 needs the VB-Runtime, it don't know what you point is.

If people have an internet connection they can download the framework with your application; otherwise they won't even get your application without getting it on CD and on a CD is space enough. Even if your application is 650MB, you just send an extra CD with it.

I really don't see the problem, i distribute .NET application's from the beginning but never head a problem with the framework.
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